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Xperia Z1 problems on all devices??

Ballaz — Mon, 07 Oct 2013 13:03:51 GMT

Wow! I just had a look at this forum and i'm not so sure if I want to get a Z1 anymore. They seem to have lot of problems.

My question is: Which problems occur on all devices and wich ones occur only on some of them (few %).

Talking about: bad pictures, lag when filming, overheat, bad wifi and so on..

When I read this forum it seems to be the worst phone ever made in history. I dont know if I should believe everything that had been said here??

Re: Xperia Z1 problems on all devices??

pnd — Mon, 07 Oct 2013 14:09:38 GMT

What do you think, that people are kidding or lieing? Everything is a real problems that we have with this phone! Display - if not yellowish than dead (some cases both), picture quality from the camera, battery life .... and so on! I understand that it all may be because of the software, but nobody is saying a word about it (the stuff I mean)!

Re: Xperia Z1 problems on all devices??

Ballaz — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 11:11:37 GMT

Well I thought that maybe your phone has one problem and the phone of somebody else has another one because of bad conception. What I meant is that its hard to believe that every single Z1 units have all these problems on them. If they do this would mean a serious mess up by sony. So I guess now that every Z1 buyers must be very angry.. I think i'm going to get a Note 3 instead of a z1. Anyways thanks for the reply!

Re: Xperia Z1 problems on all devices??

KalKryp — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 11:33:37 GMT

I will say, it's a very nice device, but the overheat, charge issue and battery drain are annoying. I'm hoping for software fixes.

I had a Note 2 before this, and must say that is one of the best devices I've used. The Z1 is great, but needs some tlc to make it spot on.

Re: Xperia Z1 problems on all devices??

alexakis79 — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 11:55:43 GMT

As far as i know, from the past 10 days having the Z1, theres no such problems on my device regarding either video lags, battery drains, wifi disconections, and problems on display. I mean none at all, maybe on the initial FW when i got it seemed to be a bit laggish.

Now im on FW 14.1.G.1.534 which was updated last week and i must say i noticed better performance regarding battery drainage, even better graphics performance for games (benchmarked both FW's).

As i mentioned i havent noticed none of the issues stated here. My battery, with full web browsing and a 15 minute gaming session (non 3d game), lasts up to day.

There's no significant heat issue either, actually i noticed that playing Real Racing for 15 minutes or more (high-end 3d game) start to heat up for the 1st 5 minutes and than drops from 50 degrees to around 46. Im a serious gamer and thats the main reason i bought it and im very happy with its performance, but get real guys its just a PHONE.

Now the only issue that's been buggin me from day one is the camera (pfff), i ve been shooting pics from day one on both FW's and the only thing changed with the .534 release is that superauto takes better pictures on good light conditions than before but even worst when shot in low light, where on the other hand manual got worst on good light condtions producing darker pics but far more realstic on low light conditons.

Hopefully theres going to be an update tha will show the raw power of this device.

Re: Xperia Z1 problems on all devices??

Redfern — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 12:53:19 GMT

I've had this phone for around 10 days also and i've got to say it's a great phone, yes there are a few problems.. but (as long as they are sorted with some sort of software update) i wouldn't let them hold you back from getting the phone.. I guess you will never know until you actually get one.

My battery life.. so far so good, the screen can take up a fair ammount of the battery, but with the size of it, im not too suprised. It seems to last a day (depends on how much you use it etc, seems about the same as every smartphone i've had in the past). On standby though i barely notice the battery go down atall.

I think it's unfair to rate the battery at the moment (for me anyway) as with it being new, i am using it alot more than my previous phone during the day.. so that would make the battery go down quicker.

Video lags.. not noticed any problems so far

Wifi problems.. not noticed any problem here also, there is a battery saving function to disconnect mobile data / wifi when you are below 20%, that's the only time i noticed it disconnecting.. but i've turned that off now.

Display problems, nope the display is awesome (one of the main reasons i went for the phone.. coming from an iPhone 4, the iPhone seems like to toy comparing the size)

Over heating.. same as "phone-user", if i've been playing a high end game.. then it can get hot quickly, but other phones would do this also. I'm sure things can only get better with updates.

And onto the camera, I can see that it has great potential and also another big reason i got the phone.. In day light it can be a fantastic camera, same with close up shots in low light.. but a normal photo in low light e.g. a photo of people in a bar.. it can produce a hit and miss image. I am hopefull this can be solved in a future software update.

I can see great potential in this phone (the speed, the screen, the camera etc), i hope the software updates contiune to come to help some small problems.

Re: Xperia Z1 problems on all devices??

KalKryp — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:33:55 GMT

You don't think it's a problem that your phone heats up to 50 degrees? Following a few minutes of use?

I used my Note 2 just as heavily as this Z1 and it never got as hot. I even used it heavily on holiday in Australia in early March in 36 degree heat and it didn't stutter. I don't think the Z1 would cope.

Re: Xperia Z1 problems on all devices??

alexakis79 — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:50:35 GMT

All these problems stated here are software related issues, Sony rushed out Z1 to get ahead of the game.

Re: Xperia Z1 problems on all devices??

V8Matt — Wed, 09 Oct 2013 13:21:10 GMT

I recently received my Z1 after having my initial Z refunded due to the dead pixel/dust issue.

The Z1 imo requires the below fixes and it seems common across all Z1s :-

1) Camera performance - Day performance is reasonable but night performance is currently a joke

2) WIFI - Very poor performance e.g. where my tablet/laptop/second phone can get between 2-3 bars, the Z1 is struggling to get a connection
3) Battery, despite the larger battery it does drain rather quickly with medium usage

All of these are seemingly fixable with software fixes, particularly 1/2 and I think part of the concern is that we have not seen any comments from Sony stating whether these have been duplicated in their results and a fix is being put together as we speak.

Although some guidance about a 4/5 step procedure to help with the desire to take reasonable night time photos - automate this please and build it into the auto mode. Given this is a £600-650 phone, I don't think the Z1 community is asking too much given the faith/loyalty shown to Sony by buying the first batch of Z1's on pre-order.

On a more positive note, the rest of the phone is great. It feels more substantial/better built than the Z and has the typical Sony thought/touches across the Android OS. I just can't help thinking I would rather have waited another week to have a firmware that resolved the obvious bugs listed above.

Re: Xperia Z1 problems on all devices??

djsat21 — Wed, 09 Oct 2013 13:27:31 GMT

The hardware is pretty sound, most of the problems are just software issues which Sony needs to sort out - and hopefully is sorting out.

Re: Xperia Z1 problems on all devices??

Redfern — Wed, 09 Oct 2013 14:16:13 GMT

I'm hoping that this is what they are working on.. http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/sony-xperia-z1-tipped-to-receive-android-44-kitkat-update-in-november-430112

From the push they are giving the phone at the moment, i'm sure soon enough a update with come along with atleast some of these issues fixed / improvements.

Re: Xperia Z1 problems on all devices??

Amer-K — Wed, 09 Oct 2013 19:32:48 GMT

I got my Z1 yesterday and u have to say that it is an amazing phone.. I have used the phone heavily and now it is 10:30 PM and i am still having 59% of my battery usage.. I even played Candy Crush for 20 min.
Wifi is better than the Z I used to have, reception is better in places I did not get any signal when I used the Z
Camera pictures are a Wow.. Have no issues with it at all.
Am galling in love with this device..
A big hi from Jordan - Middle East to Sony

Re: Xperia Z1 problems on all devices??

Ballaz — Wed, 09 Oct 2013 23:25:35 GMT

Thanks to everyone! I'm still not sure what i'm gonna buy next week but your anwsers helped me.

2 of you said that they havent got any overheat problem (while you were playing 3d games etc..)

But I've read somewhere that the overheating problem could happen when you are using the camera on a long period. ie: you are filming a concert then the camera shut itself off after 10-15 minutes because of overheating.

Did it happen to anyone here?

Another question: Can you play games with your PS3 controller paired with the Z1 ? If so, does it work fine?

Re: Xperia Z1 problems on all devices??

IvanT — Thu, 10 Oct 2013 02:35:26 GMT

Hey Mate,
I've worked as a tech for apple for over 4 years and saw millions of people complaining about 90% of the phones features and usability. To refer to that 99% of these complaints have always been user error related.
I decided to take up android early this year and went with the HTC one. Was a nice phone, all usual complaints were bearable I was how ever let down by the camera as I found 4mp to be a let down in most shots. I received my Z1 last week...
Comparison I can provide you is against the HTC One and just a personal opinion from experience. Battery issues usually caused by poor networks where the phone is caused change bands and frequencies often. Turning 4g off and using manual brightness (100% during day and 0% at night) I get a full day out of pretty heavy use with good 30% left at 9pm. Take into consideration that this phone is still a new toy to me and I'm using it more then I normally would. So I take pictures of random crap, allot of Instagram, calls, speed tests etc. I live in aust, today it's 34degrees and going up. I've not experienced any unusual heat beyond what HTC one or iPhones produce. Camera.... This is a tricky one... I've taken some mind blowing pictures during the day, with ridiculous amount of detail on manual mode and even auto does great. Low light performance isn't great. But it's very easy to see WHAT actually causes the issue. All manufacturers deal with noise reduction in their own way. HTC over processes everything in in good light and over sharpens all of your shots. Sony like most others have allot of post processing in place. In low light after processing tends to smooth the picture out removing usual grain but along with it allot of details. This is a firmware issue and surely can be fixed. But even then, the camera likes to use flash in more situations then most other phones I've used and who you let it, the pictures come out great. Wifi signal isn't great and definitely needs to be addressed.
Over all... Great phone, from design of hardware to software. The sony android skin is fantastic and minimalistic. It's a huge upgrade from the HTC one as far as I am concerned. So take everything from forums under consideration. An erase and install does wonders, 90% of problems reported by people are software related including heat! resets! shutdowns, lagg, etc.
hope this helps

Re: Xperia Z1 problems on all devices??

Ballaz — Thu, 10 Oct 2013 11:03:31 GMT

it does help. thank you mate!

Re: Xperia Z1 problems on all devices??

V8Matt — Thu, 10 Oct 2013 16:19:07 GMT

59% at 22.30 !!

Mine gets to 53% by 13:00 and I use it occasionally.

Does seem to be some big variances in battery performance reported

Re: Xperia Z1 problems on all devices??

fester1698 — Fri, 11 Oct 2013 07:44:51 GMT

I had 2 so far and both have had black screen which not even a hard reset could sort. Both were on the latest software as well. Seems they may have rushed it out. Hoping my 3rd one is fault free.

Re: Xperia Z1 problems on all devices??

alexakis79 — Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:47:47 GMT

I totally agree, i got the Z1 two weeks ago and havent experienced any of these isues apart from the camera's crappy superauto feature. Overall its an amazing piece of hardware, also i must say im impressed with battery usage the past couple of days ive been charging it after 14 hours of service!!! It doesnt even reach 30 percent by the end of the day, and during normal usage. Its weird reading all these battery related issues with people having the same FW as mine.

Re: Xperia Z1 problems on all devices??

reatu — Fri, 11 Oct 2013 10:11:55 GMT

Most issues on an android smartphone of any brand come from software. It means they can potentially be fixed with upgrades or patches. More problematic are hardware issues, especially if a manufacturer has critical ones in a series and especially if it refuses to address or fix them within warranty. Sometimes intentionally and fraudulently. From experience with the Z and the fact that Z1 has same materials (apart from the frame which is not problematic on the Z), I would caution you to google xperia Z screen crack because you may encounter this on the Z1. It is a VERY painful experience and there are many many people who bought the Z and will never buy a Z1 or any Sony product because it again. Just know if your screen cracks, it is very likely a manufacturing fault as with the Z and don't believe the service center it is all your fault if it does, without you mishandling it or dropping it. The Z was supposed to be my phone for about 2 years, having just what I needed, with a somewhat mediocre screen and night camera performance but just perfect with being water resistant. It only lasted 3 months and then the screen self cracked. In front of my eyes. I then went online to find it was a common flaw and that everyone is being ignored by Sony and Sony wanted around 80% of price of new phone for repairs from everyone it happened to... Just informing you in case it happens to you on the Z1. I too thought posts were likely bogus before it happened to me.

Re: Xperia Z1 problems on all devices??

Ballaz — Fri, 11 Oct 2013 20:18:21 GMT

Reatu: You can google screen crack with any other phone and you'll get alot of results. (samsung, iphone, HTC..) I dont think this is worst with Sony devices.. Maybe a miss conception can occur here and there but I guess most of the complains come from people who havent paid enough attention to their phone. This is my opinion but hey.. who knows.