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About xperia z1 camera

abeha72 — Sun, 08 Sep 2013 10:04:41 GMT

Previously I was using xperia z but now I want to purchase the xperia z1

I want three things more in xperia z1 camera features; please forward my request to software developers of Z1

1) I want a video pause and resume button in Xperia Z1 camcorder. So that while recording videos from camcorder we can pause and resume the videos.

The Samsung s4 have this button in his camcorder then why not xperia Z1 have it

2) I want 4K video option in Z1 I know it is possible for Z1 to record a 4K video with his powerful Bionz processor and a 2.2GHz 800 series snapdragon processor

Samsung note 3 have the same 2.2 GHZ 800 series processor and he can record 4K

3) I love to take pictures in 16:9 ratio The Z1 have 16:9 ratio only in 8 Mega-pixel , please try to give 16:9 ratio also in more resolutions like 13 Mega-pixel

Re: About xperia z1 camera

aliakbar_mirzae — Sun, 08 Sep 2013 12:48:38 GMT

Absolutely.especially 4k video recording...why do they release a product with 4k recording capability,but without including this capability in the software,exactly like not including photo sphere in xperia z android 4.2.2.all knows that leaks from xperia z1 showed that it had 4k video recording.but now after release...no 4k.WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

Re: About xperia z1 camera

Uliwooly — Sun, 08 Sep 2013 21:07:01 GMT

1) I agree with this, it will be nice to have this, there are ways around it but it will be a lot easier to have that button.

2) I don't see the point on 4K from such an small sensor, it might seem like 4K but it is NOT going to be as good as a RED Epic Dragon 4K, plus most people have 1080p or 1080i or 720p tvs, monitors not 4K.

3) I agree with this too, it will be great to have more ratio options and quality.

Re: About xperia z1 camera

Ali-G — Tue, 10 Sep 2013 10:44:57 GMT

Sony did not introduced the 4K due to overheating but is very expensive every 4K TV. The samsung is a cheater and consumed everything to gain, he wants to be the greatest manufacturer but his devices are cheap waste. Sony does not want to burn the phone, for samsung is not matter if burn the device or burn your body...

Re: About xperia z1 camera

Uliwooly — Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:18:24 GMT

I think this whole idea of 4K on a smartphone its at least now unnecessary but to each its own

Re: About xperia z1 camera

abeha72 — Wed, 11 Sep 2013 07:17:08 GMT

Ok I can understand that Sony did not include 4K video recording because the device will heat up and it may be harmful for Z1

But they can give us a button in camcorder video pause and resume.

And 16:9 ratio in more high resolutions then 8 mega pixel

Re: About xperia z1 camera

Uliwooly — Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:00:45 GMT

The phone was just announced and its about to be released, lets just wait until its released and we'll see if it has different ratios/mp options

Re: About xperia z1 camera

santana1 — Fri, 13 Sep 2013 15:39:40 GMT

This camera could be better if Sony gave us the option to turn off compression of photo's i me there is to much compression I've looked at the size of some of your 20mp photo's and there come no bigger than 7mb where as nokia 1020 full 38mp comes at 22mp and that is a huge difference.Plese let us the user choose if we want compression of not i mean the phone comes with a memory slot so saving a photo of 20mb on a 32 or 64gig sdcard isn't a problem so sony please st with this compression business it's hurting ppl like me that uploads photo's to the pc to print to look at.

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Uliwooly — Sat, 14 Sep 2013 04:03:11 GMT

it'll be great if Sony could give us this option, perhaps if they add this feature on the developers section, most users don't care so much about super HD pictures as they are ok with whatever facebook's standard but there is a growing number that we do care and we want better pictures an option to save a picture in JPEG and raw will be awesome

Re: About xperia z1 camera

santana1 — Sat, 14 Sep 2013 04:09:36 GMT

Thissite by the name of tbreak posted some samples last week of comparisons between the 1020 and z1 and at first i tought they were very close but the writer admitted he was not a photographer and he will get a professional potographer to come do a full review of the two units and he did and i think you guys at sony should take a look.Here you go as i want the best camera experience without switching brands as i have only ever owned sony made products so read and past it along the chain of command let's hope they fix this post processing nonsense and let us the buyers decide what's best for us http://www.tbreak.ae/features/pro-photography-lumia-1020-vs-xperia-z1. I'm not bashing you the phone is georgeous and i plan to purchase it but fix this cam processing you do jpeg already compresses the photos we don't need you to do it to it causes us to lose to much detail on our pics with all the noise,over sharpening and softening that you do,we the costomers want better quality photos with less processing.

Re: About xperia z1 camera

GeoffH — Sat, 14 Sep 2013 07:13:15 GMT

There is only one reveiw I've seen so far that was done with a full production unit and that was yesterday by GSMarena, here is a link to the full review which is quite impressive, all other reviews I've seen have been done with pre-production samples and do not reflect the fully released retail device, also note that even on the full retail device - the camera Firmware is not the full production release and will be updated in the coming weeks and will introduce new features and driver firmware which will improve the photo and video quality by quite a margin

here is a link to the extensive review http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z1-review-983p2.php as you will notice they have said they will review the camera at a later date

Re: About xperia z1 camera

alireza_asol — Sat, 14 Sep 2013 08:28:56 GMT

xperia z1 camera app has some problems in macro and some other scenes

see this site

http://www.zoomit.ir/articles/mobile/6818-xperia-z1-vs-galaxy-s4-camera

language is persian but you can see sample pics

keep your mouse on pics ... right side is z1 and left side is s4

pay more attention on "flower" pic and "stones" & "bicycle" & "chess"

Re: About xperia z1 camera

santana1 — Sat, 14 Sep 2013 15:51:36 GMT

You can see some serious smudging in those photos i mean the Z1 beats the galaxy in most photos but it's not by that big of a margin i still believe the main problem with this phones camera is sony's post processing if i compare photos from my arc s,mini pro or tx they all look smudgy the same way and those have different sensors so it must be sony's processing.I will sound like a hypocrite but trhis phone will be beaten by the new iphone 5s camera because apple tweaks it's software so much better than the competition and i don't believe in this crap about review units and such like that always sounds like an excuse to me.Fact is the 1020's review units gave amazing shots and the review unit is suppose to tell or give us an idea of the final picture and if sony keeps letting other oems use there camera sensors and then produce better pics than sony themselves it will only be a matter of time before it's customers switch.I mean spend some money and hire someone who knows about tweaking cam software for phones cause for real cameras sony is one of the best but in mobile they are way down the pack , if sony has a uk arm they can see if they can lur the likes of damian dining or someone like that who is a guru at smartphone cameras.

Re: About xperia z1 camera

GeoffH — Sun, 15 Sep 2013 01:14:36 GMT

guys just remember that most of the articles and reviews you are reading and linking too are using review or prototype models that don't have the final software hardware or both, as I mentioned above we are starting to see some retail models appear but also consider the even current retail models are not using final Firmware for the Camera - so there is no point in linking to them or discussing the camera here until we get the proper camera FW released

Now whether that is good or bad for Sony to do this is another argument I guess but it certaintly didn't put me off buying the Z1 - if it's a good as the Z then I'll be happy - but I know it's much much better in every respect, I don't have any interest if it's better or worse than a Nokia - I don't want a Nokia and would never consider buying one

Re: About xperia z1 camera

santana1 — Sun, 15 Sep 2013 03:38:22 GMT

I'm not considering buying a nokia as I've said I only buy Sony products but as an electrical engineer at an international airport at times photos from my device comes in handy especially when I want to show and explain to my team what I want done and where the problem is. When you have such heavy noise filtering and post processing the edge of the photos loose so much detail they get smudgy and that has been the case with Sony since they finished with the cybershot. I mean I buy Sony all the time but doesn't mean I don't look at the competition even the 1020 in comparison with the 808 smudges the edge of photos a lot all I want is less processing done that is all. When you have the time GeoffH head over to allaboutsymbian.com and look at what the best cam on a phone is capable of and like me you might feel underwhelmed by Sony at times, as I've said even the competition using the Sony optics/sensors are churning out better pics than what Sony is and it has been so for a couple years now all I want Sony to do is step up and I don't mean the megapixel count I mean the details in the pics from their respective smartphones. I'm just tired of the over sharpened,over processed smudge and no I can't walk around with my cam all day either security would make my life a living nightmare at the airport.

Re: About xperia z1 camera

GeoffH — Sun, 15 Sep 2013 04:13:25 GMT

I do understand but I still think we need to wait until we have a full retail release and updated software, don't forget you can't officially buy this phone yet in a retail outlet - so we are in very early days

I have seen good pictures and bad ones taken with the Z1 but I have every confidence that I am going to be very impressed with the camera when I get the phone next week, even the Z came through in the end

Re: About xperia z1 camera

GeoffH — Sun, 15 Sep 2013 04:44:24 GMT

another good review with what seems to be a retail unit, pictures are pretty good to - thought I would share

http://www.unbox.ph/gadget/sony-xperia-z1-review-sony-has-seriously-outdone-themselves/

Re: About xperia z1 camera

alireza_asol — Sun, 15 Sep 2013 09:01:33 GMT

in my above post a retail unit tested ... but you can see bad performance in some photos

also pics are very compressed

Re: About xperia z1 camera

santana1 — Sun, 15 Sep 2013 15:02:13 GMT

Precisely what I don't want a photo compressed to smudge all I want is sony not to compress there photos so much that is where the problem lies. What's the use of buying a phone to install a 3rd party app like vignette or camera 360 all the time? Sony needs to do something with there post processing and compression way to much noise filtering happens I mean the center is clear but the edges of the photos are smudged and lack detail.

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santana1 — Sun, 15 Sep 2013 17:06:20 GMT

I was thinking you are close to the hierarchy of the Sony team right, so what do you think about a cybershot app to rival the pro cam app on the competition? It would basically allow you to do more with the cam a true manual setting mode not normal setting mode where you can choose the compression filters,contrast and such like it's just an idea from a Sony loyalist and customer maybe you can pass it along the chain of command and see what they think.